Talmud Bavli
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Commentary for Bava Metzia 129:15

מאי טעמא ניחא להו דליקו ברשותי דכל היכא דקא אזלי שבקי להו מכסא ונקוט להו שוקא

BUT IF AT HARVEST TIME, FOR TWELVE <i>MANEHS</i> — THAT IS FORBIDDEN. R. Nahman said: An increased credit price<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Tarsha, lit., 'deaf or silent usury' (Jast.); i.e., selling goods on credit at more than cash price but without stipulating that the addition is on account of credit. ');"><sup>11</sup></span> is permitted. Rami b. Hama, others Say, R. 'Ukba b. Hama, refuted R. Nahman: BUT IF AT HARVEST TIME, FOR TWELVE <i>MANEHS</i> — THAT IS FORBIDDEN? — He replied: There [the increase] was stipulated; here no stipulation is made. R. papa said: The increased credit price which I take is permitted.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Papa was a manufacturer of beer. He sold it in Tishri, when prices are low, to be paid for in Nisan at Nisan prices, which are higher. ');"><sup>12</sup></span> Why? Because my beer will not deteriorate [if I keep it until Nisan], [and] I am in no need of money;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' To have to sell it earlier — he was a wealthy man. ');"><sup>13</sup></span> hence, I merely confer a benefit upon the purchaser [by letting him have it earlier]. But R. Shesheth the son of R. Idi said to R. papa: Why should you merely consider yourself? Consider them [the purchasers]: had they money, they would purchase at present prices; lacking it, they must buy it at the higher future prices.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So that it is usury from their point of view. ');"><sup>14</sup></span> R. Hama said: My increased credit price is certainly permitted.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Hama sold goods where they were cheap at the higher cost of some other place. The purchaser then conveyed the goods there at R. Hama's risk. Since R. Hama bore the risk, the goods were his until brought there, therefore they really sold his wares, and so he was entitled to the prices of that place. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> Why? They are pleased that it shall remain in my ownership, so that wherever they go they are released from taxation and the market is held up for them.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' No one being permitted to sell until they had sold out, which was the scholar's privilege. ');"><sup>16</sup></span>

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